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IN YOUR CITY Show With Kelley and Gordon
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Welcome to In Your City Show. It's our second day right here in the new studios here at uh the new K L I S 590 a.m. And of course, on demand, the Lou Information Station live at LouInfo.com. That's all you have to do is go to luinfo.com. You can watch the show, listen to the show. And of course, being that streaming 24-7, you can keep going back and forth. You can watch yesterday's show, our first show.
SPEAKER_03:Like we said yesterday, binge watch. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. We're the new binge watch, though, right? Everybody's gonna be on pens and needles waiting for the next episode of us. You go to Apple, Spotify, everywhere that you stream, you're able to get the inform, what the little info, but get us the in your city show. So welcome. We're a little late getting started, of course. Hope you can bear with us. It is only the second day. So there's a lot going on. You know, we're sitting here talking, trying to remember what to say and what we're gonna talk about, but there's so much behind the scenes that goes on between lights, camera, and of course, we're always dependent upon technology.
SPEAKER_03:The gremlins are at full force right now, working on all the equipment and everything is kind of like you know, if you like to what was it? The um the one with the big ears, what were they called? The uh or gremlins, but I mean, yeah, the gremlins, but what was it?
SPEAKER_07:Midnight when yeah, what was his name?
SPEAKER_03:Gizmo.
SPEAKER_07:Gizmo, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:We got gizmo in there showing on cables and doing all kinds of things.
SPEAKER_07:So things do happen. So, and even when we are smooth and running and everything's great, there'll still be glitches sometimes.
SPEAKER_03:That's the way it goes, you know, especially when you're live, yeah, yeah, doing live stuff.
SPEAKER_07:But we're having a good time. I'm Kelly Lamb, and I'm Gordon Montgomery. And we have we've been doing this a long time. It's just that this show you might not be able to tell new at this location. We were here quite some time ago with uh another show that she said he said, but in your city's been a while. We've got three beautiful publications. Um, I heard Dave talking about them earlier, and it was really nice. Yeah, so every month we have a new theme. Uh, June, right now, is the men's issue. So if you do get the magazine, you'll see the gorgeous covers with the coach uh Beck with the Battlehawks. Um, I kept calling the Blackhawks. Yeah, that's hockey. Yeah, that's a hockey. Back with sports for Kelly. Yeah, the Battlehawks, and then of course, Dave Lover. If you know him, he's an awesome individual, been in radio for 20 years now. And then also Chef um uh Kaluchi over at Gianni over at the Members Club on our covers, and then our women's covers, if uh which I don't think you can see, we'll have to hold them up because you're not able to see our cool table down here very much.
SPEAKER_03:Actually, I want to invite you to go to citylifestyle.com. Go to citylifestyle.com. All you got to do is put in your zip code, and it'll all you can pick Clayton, Chesterfield, St. Charles, or even Renee's magazine, Kirkwood, and you can see all of the City Lifestyle magazines that are right here in our city. You can thumb through the magazines, and if you would like, you can also subscribe to the magazine right there at CityLifestyle.com.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, you can get that to your own. So we, I mean, gosh, we have lots of like 45,000 homes.
SPEAKER_03:45,000, the largest distribution of any magazine in St. Louis.
SPEAKER_07:So it will tell you a little bit. We've got some great guests on. We've got um, we do have a question to ask here. Um, maybe your parents, a grandparent, uh, an aunt, and you know, you've got a little one at home, and and they want to draw you a picture. And they're proud of it. Oh, they're so proud of it. And you know, they always want you to hang out on the refrigerator. And sometimes they actually take that drawing and they take it to school to share with the teachers about show and tell. Show and tell.
SPEAKER_03:Once they show it, there's a lot to tell.
SPEAKER_07:There's a lot to tell from it. You kind of can, you know, maybe pick your own meaning from it. But you know, while we get those ready for you to be able to see some of that that we thought we'd share with you that are, you know, really collectible items, and every parent would want their kid to take that home from school, right?
SPEAKER_03:Right. Right, right.
SPEAKER_07:So, you know, if you had something, you know, great that has been awesome with your child, we'd love for you to share it. We got the comment section here. So if you're on lootinfo.com, you can comment to us, but uh let um go my mom likes drinking drinking wine. There we go. Yeah, every mom wants that to happen. They they get better. So let what else do we have?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, so if you're on air, make sure you go to YouTube so you can see all yeah.
SPEAKER_07:If you're watching on radio, unfortunately, you couldn't see the mom sitting there with her glass of wine.
SPEAKER_03:Dear firefighter, thank you for saving me from danger. You were so brave, God bless you, with your fire hose.
SPEAKER_07:So if you're looking at you can see the uh the fire hose, and I I guess that worked well to put out the fire. What do you think?
SPEAKER_03:Oh my gosh. I yeah.
SPEAKER_07:What else do we have?
SPEAKER_03:I'm sure the fireman's wife is happy. Yeah, this one. Okay, can you read it? This one, well, yeah. So this is actually, I went to a meeting with uh uh an advertiser, and and she actually showed me this that her niece, her niece, she's an aunt, and her niece did this this photo. This photo is actually a uh a farmer and his horse.
SPEAKER_07:And his horse. Oh, that's a horse. That's a horse. Okay, so he's getting ready to ride his horse.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, we'll see if it's sure your imagination is taking you a lot of other places with this photo. So, yeah, that's a farmer with his horse right there.
SPEAKER_07:Do we have another beautiful one to share? No, that's it. Oh, yeah, here we go. We're still so as you can see, it looks like all of the family was hung on their vacation and uh and murdered, but they were actually circular. Oh, yeah. This one, best friends, yeah, the best friends. Best friends um at school and wanted to share Bobby's best friend. So we never, you never know. So I remember, you know, um uh I guess you uh know the story of my daughter uh coming out to the car. So we were at a wedding shower, one of these funny wedding showers, and we got as a gift a friendly little women's device. Oh you can probably imagine what that is in your head. So we all got one. Mine was purple. Lightsaber. Teresa got it one of lightsaber.
SPEAKER_03:I heard one of the earlier shows today, Grant's show. I thought they were talking about Star Wars, so we'll go with lightsaber.
SPEAKER_07:We'll go with lightsaber. And so, of course, it was in a box, and we were getting ready to leave for the lake. And and my uh daughter, I kept telling her, gosh, my head hurts, my neck is killing me. So she came out with um my purple lightsaber, lightsaber to rescue me from my headache. So you really never know what kids will do. They they do the funniest things with without even thinking about it.
SPEAKER_03:Wasn't there a show called Kids Do the Darndest Things or Say the Darndest Things, maybe write and draw the darndest things as well.
SPEAKER_07:Oh yeah. So on our show, we're excited. Um, so Gordon has a great segment that he does actually outside of your school called Soul Strings. And if you go to inyourcityshow.com, um, you can or actually you can go to our YouTube for In Your City Show, you'll see a few of his Soul Strings episodes. Gordon is a musician, he is a singer, he's uh been on stage since he was 17 years old, incredible voice, incredible musician, even though you won't realize it. When you can sit down on a piano or a guitar and listen to a song within seconds, start playing it. That's a pretty, pretty amazing talent. So um I love when he does it, but it's soul string, so it's kind of really, you know, soul of music. It it he may talk uh a little bit. Tugs at the strings of your heart and the strings of your heart. So our first Soul Strings guest, which will be actually um each Tuesday of the week, will be a shorter version. Pat Liston uh is a great interview that you go and watch on NYRCitieshow.com. Uh, that Gordon met with and wow, what a great he read his book. We have a book here, actually, right there. Right. You don't realize you start in your 17. What is that? Mama's pride? Is that Mama's Pride? Mama's Pride, the band. You don't realize who you meet, especially at our age, who you've met along the way, or sit next to on an airplane like Michael Jackson, like Pat did. Yeah. And just the great stories that he talks about.
SPEAKER_03:We'll actually play a segment of that. We'll have to play one one Tuesday segment of Pat's interview.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, like you actually hear him playing. He was live at Carbon playing there in the cigar room, which was pretty cool. But um, how do you say his name? Is it Marcy?
SPEAKER_03:I hope I get this right. Moisey Marchini, I think that's how you pronounce it.
SPEAKER_07:So he's gonna be here shortly, and we're gonna bring him in and uh uh Brazilian background born musician, composer, and cultural educator. Yeah, very cool. And then we're gonna take it a whole different spend. We do got a great destination for you to go to. Kat Muse, who's gonna be bringing a lot of uh bands and lively things that are going on the weekend. She is not able to be with us here today, which she was going to kind of talk about, what she's bringing to the show. So she had something come up, which definitely happens, and we just, you know, makeshift and turn things around. But she's gonna be bringing us something on Fridays. We're gonna meet uh Logan Janice, who's actually our incredible producer, but all he is from um mostly superheroes. And I hope they said that right because I'm not looking at it. He's gonna be with us tomorrow. He's gonna be doing a great segment on Friday on the show, bringing you movies and TVs and lots of fun things also to look forward to. But we're gonna take it to a whole different notch today when we talk to Judy Henderson. Judy Henderson is a woman who spent 36 years in prison for murder. Um, and she didn't do it. I mean, can you imagine? So we're gonna hear her story, we're gonna talk about that, and then we got a poll question for the day. We want to know because of the place and destination that we have for you, we want to know if you believe in ghosts, or maybe you have a ghost story, something happened to you. You know, they say that um uh 46% of people, is it for that 40%, I think, believe in ghosts, and 20% of people, this is whatever they take. What's the percentage? I think it's 40 something. Wow, I I think it is.
SPEAKER_03:I would think it would be higher than that.
SPEAKER_07:Really? Yeah, maybe it is. We'll re-look it up because I'm I have so many numbers. Do you believe in ghosts? I do. Only because things have happened. When I say ghosts, I don't mean, you know, but kind of spirit flickering light flickering, yeah. Energy. Yeah, we've had there's some things. Or your refrigerator knocking. That was crazy. We both were sitting on the couch completely stumped when we heard knocking. It was like completely, yeah, sounded like someone was on a refrigerator.
SPEAKER_03:And when we opened the door of the refrigerator, it was even louder, and it was not it was like there was a leprechaun inside of our refrigerator banging on our refrigerator. I'm dead serious.
SPEAKER_07:But it wasn't like the ice makers to the left of the refrigerator in the door, it was not the sound was not. It was coming from the back behind the refrigerator. Gordon went outside to see if our neighbor came over. Wasn't hammering on the house, yeah. Was hammering on the house or something, that's how crazy.
SPEAKER_03:And to let you know, we don't have a crazy neighbor. We live in Newtown. So all the houses. So when we live in Newtown, the house to the left of us, their yard is actually next to our house. That's their yard. Our yard is to the right. So every house's yard is to the right of their house. So that would be their yard. So they're not crazy back in our house.
SPEAKER_07:No, it wasn't. Nobody was there. We still don't know. We've been there six years and we've never heard anything like it. And I don't, I don't know why the the ghost would be in our refrigerator. We've had several stories, and we'll have to have some fun. I think we're probably gonna have a little paranormal fun on here and have a special guest on to kind of talk about that. But um, but anyway, our source question do you believe with ghosts? Have you had maybe something that's been paranormal energy, weird things or something happened to you? We would love to know. And then we actually um there's something we're kind of talking about too. We had the funny drawings and that, and we had a conversation with a friend. But man, when and what is the age now that you finally get your kid off the payroll? Yeah, and when I say that, they aren't doing anything to get paid, it's just you're paying for everything, like car insurance, card payments, phone payments. I mean, now we didn't have cell phones, we didn't we didn't have all the things that we have now that we need that you have to pay for.
SPEAKER_03:So, what did March Sutherland say?
SPEAKER_07:It's like after rent's over when they're 18. And he said it in a British accent. But yeah, you're done. You start paying rent when you're 18 because they're then the employees are gonna happen.
SPEAKER_02:Now you're being charged.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. So you know what? We're all ready because we got started a little bit late, but we are gonna take it to a quick break because, of course, you know it pays for the station. It's all the amazing advertisers that come on board that believe in the station, want to be a part of it, share their voice, and have you hopefully visit them local. And that's what it's all about here on the Lou Information Station is being local. We're gonna bring in Moisty, if we're saying it correctly, who's a musician or the entertainer, find out a little bit about him and our still streams right here on the In Your City show. So again, go to luinfo.com if you want to watch it. Um, it's streaming live at all times. And then, of course, we're on the beautiful dial on the radio at 590 a.m. if you still love that way of listening to things. But we're your favorite podcast, we hope now.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. All right. So we'll be right back.
SPEAKER_07:You can watch us live on Louinfo.com, and we are here. We've got our first Soul Strings. Um, I love this.
SPEAKER_03:In-house guest, yes.
SPEAKER_07:Yes, and our first Soul Strings guest. This is Gordon's baby. This is something that he has put together. And being a musician, like we talked about, he really wanted to bring the heart of music into the show. So every Tuesday, we're gonna have somebody in the station that's doing incredible things out there in the music world with a beautiful soul. And today we have, I can't say it correctly because his accent is so amazing. So I get to call him Mo, but Mo I see Martini.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, very close.
SPEAKER_07:Very close. Welcome to the show and thank you for being here.
SPEAKER_00:The right pronunciation is Mo Acir. It has to make three syllables. The Brazilian Indian name is the first Brazilian name, actually. And we have our poca hunters there as well in Brazil. Her name is Iracema. Oh, really? Iracema fell in love with one Portuguese general, but the Portuguese accept her, so she she went and lived in Portugal for a while, but she was Indian, like no clothes, and uh like no. Oh, no clothes, and then she had to go to Portugal, like and wear like those big dresses, and then she got fed up with that very shortly. No, I think she lived over there for three years, and then she returned to Brazil. But they have three kids, and one of the kids was Moacir, which is my name. So they said that's the first Brazilian name, Moacir.
SPEAKER_03:That's so awesome. Well, so well, welcome to the show. We're glad that you're here, and we're glad you're that you're our first guest on Soul Strings. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Brazilian-born musician. Yeah, so when did you first start? Let's go back and let's start talking about when you first started getting interested in music and what got you interested in music.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I always always play, I always play percussion. Since I was 10 years old, I have like 10.
SPEAKER_03:Always coming out. You're just coming out playing.
SPEAKER_00:But I but I play because I love to do it. Like me and my friends, we have like each one have individual precaution instruments. So we did a little sample group. Sum is not Brazilian national music. So we did a little sample group and we play in the corner. Back then the police used to chase us out of the corner, they didn't want us to play in the corner, and then uh the military was in power. Now we have to understand that too. But anyway, so like then we went to the backyard and then we started playing in the backyard there. They didn't bother us. So like my I was I was 10 years old. But soon, like I started like working, going to school at night, and then was it was hard to continue with the music. And then I got a degree in advertising, and then I started working on the PBS, like in Brazil, it's called the Vicultura, which is a um mainly the most like strong PBS in Brazil. And then like uh with 26, I moved to the US. And then when I moved to the US, like I moved to Chicago, and then like in Chicago, uh a couple years later, I started really getting homesick of Brazil. So I started doing a sample school. Are you familiar with the term samba school? No, it's those big money graph parades that we have in Brazil, those those kids on like in there. Those are those organizations who put those money graph parades together are called samba school. And I grew up in summer schools in Brazil. Like I prayed on them, like I was always present, like at the the parade, and Carnaval has always been my love. The money graph parades, like no, the whole season of Carnival has been my love. And then uh, and then when I moved to Chicago, I start one of the young shoes. I missed that too much. So like I started a group of like a sample school in Chicago, it was called Chicago Sumba School, and it was in 1990 when I did that. And then and then for a while, we have like 25 percussionists, but I have like 10 dancers, but I was very confusing. How many percussionists? 25. Oh, okay. But but in Brazil, we have 400s, and those groups over there, like every one of those groups have 400 percussionists, those parades have 5,000 people in those parades, and like different, like 50 different sessions, and the precaution session is only one of them. It's something out of this world.
SPEAKER_03:I was gonna say, I'm because I'm sitting here and I'm trying to I'm trying to comprehend 400 percussionists playing at the same time.
SPEAKER_00:It's a lot of rehearsals.
SPEAKER_03:What kind of look does the one guy who messes up yet after the other 399 are like going? We were all good. What's now we gotta do this again?
SPEAKER_00:Well, just the main guy over there, like the main lead drum cannot show up, no, like uh so like let's reschedule this rehearsal with another 400 people. No, it doesn't work like that. Like they know they have to do those rehearsals.
SPEAKER_03:Everybody's prepared, indeed.
SPEAKER_00:They're sharp, no, like it's it's part of the culture. They grew up with that, and I grew up with that as well. And then I and then I started this group in Chicago, like uh, and then with the only then when they said there was 25 in this group that you started. There was 25 instruments, precaution instrument, only precaution. There was no no melodic instrument, it was all precaution. And then, like, we did some presentations at some Latino festival at an AVP in Chicago, which I was still working with them today. Like I still work with an AVP. I so that band in Chicago called the Chicago Samba School, it's still exists today. But we took the school out of the name because it was too confusing for America's like, this is a school, this is a band, what is this now? And it was just a Brazina band. So we we took the school out of the name and became only Chicago Samba. That's the name of the group. And we we're full like doing a lot of shows over there, so I'll go back and forth. But I live in St. Louis, I love you, so this is my city. It's our city. This is my city. It is our city. I've been living over here for 32 years now. And uh I came over here.
SPEAKER_03:I've been here for 32. I was gonna ask you.
SPEAKER_00:In St. Louis, in San Luis for 32 years, uh 20 years in in Maplewood, now 12 years in Dogtown.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_00:So, like uh that's the and I came over here in 1991, I think 1991, to do a workshop with a group of percussionists like call the sambistas. They played some music, but they didn't know how to tune the drums properly. So, like I gave them instruction. I came I came for the weekend, and I met a girl like uh when when they came over here, you know, and I was without a relationship. Like then we started dating, and then we date for a while, and then I moved down. We lived together for 20 20 years, we're not together anymore.
SPEAKER_03:But it was now did the music have anything to do with that relationship?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, she she was a drummer too, and she loves to play drums. Now she we still play together once in a while. She she's kind of busy, you know. She was a uh professor, uh she was a professor of Webster. She retired now, but it's like, please, if you have like festivals, she doesn't want to do clubs. But if it's a festival, like something like that, you need like my my skills, like please call me. So I always call her to do some games with that.
SPEAKER_03:So very cool. So do you have any now? You say you have something over in Chicago, you've got a band that you play with in Chicago. Do you have anything here locally?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so like uh and then when I 93, when I moved over here, like it's wait for one year, and then I create another band too called Sumba Boom. That's that's a local band. Okay, and uh and then we have a singer, wonderful singer, but she's a dentist, and so she's always really busy with what uh working with as a dentist. She's from Brazil, and uh too bad she couldn't come because she has this sweet voice, beautiful voice. Like uh, and then we have a bunch of presentations now, like this. Uh I'm gonna plug in my my website over here. Yes, absolutely.
SPEAKER_03:We want you to. We want people to find out where you're at, what where you're playing, and and where they can go to your website.
SPEAKER_00:Sure. Uh so it's called www.samba S A M B A Bone B O M dot com, which means good samba. That's that's what samba bone means. And uh, we have uh our schedules over there on the website, but tomorrow there will be a wonderful show at uh history museum. Then we're gonna do a show, uh script that I wrote. Uh I I do many things, not like besides music, but uh and I work for Springboard St. Louis. I don't know if you're familiar with them.
SPEAKER_03:You know what? I saw that, so tell me a little bit about that.
SPEAKER_00:That's it's uh it's a non-profit organization that brings uh culture or art to schools, and I have programs with them, and one of them is called Sounds of Brazil, that we're gonna be doing tomorrow at noon, uh the History Museum. And this this show, like I wrote a script like with the history of Brazil, and then so we tell the history of Brazil through music. We start with the indigenous Indians of Brazil, how the Portuguese arrived, how they brought the Africans in, how the cultures blend together, and then we end up the show with the Bossa Nova, which is like a fusion between samba and boss. So, like uh, so that's a lot of like a lot of history like involved in the show. There'll be a dancer in costumes tomorrow, like beautiful costume, and she's a wonderful dancer.
SPEAKER_03:How long is this event last tomorrow night?
SPEAKER_00:Tomorrow is 45 minutes.
SPEAKER_03:45 minutes.
SPEAKER_00:We are part of a big program from uh Latin and Caribbean culture that uh the history museum is putting together. So the event the whole event is from 10 to 1. 10 to 1? That's what I was gonna ask. But we're gonna our presentation will be at the uh the main theater that I forgot the name right now. Dean, or I forgot the name of the main theater.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, do they have information on that on their website?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, well, it's at their links like on my website. You can find us like also on social media, like Facebook or or Instagram.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I uh you know what I'm with you. You know, if it wasn't for her, I wouldn't be on half of the things that we're on, but it's like because of what we do that we're on it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, like me too.
SPEAKER_03:Like like so you start at a young age. Um, and it seems like this is kind of a little bit of a spiritual thing, too, with the music. Tell me a little bit about that. How much is the spiritual side of this played, not only with with your music, but with your own life?
SPEAKER_00:Uh it's uh I think it that comes with you already, you know, like with your DA DNA, your soul, it's all together with that. You feel like very humanistic, like you're gonna be a good human being. Like uh, if you tend to be two other sides, you're gonna be like that. That comes with you. That's the way I feel. And uh, my neighborhood was half black and half white, so there was a lot of Afro-Brazilian culture in my upcoming, uh, when was growing growing up, and then that we share the drums, like now, we shared together. I started seeing like this social difference when I moved over here. They start seeing like this black and white difference that's right in your face. There's subtle, there's some true, but subtle. But when I was a kid, I didn't feel that no. To me, like we are equal, like we grow up. No, we're poor, we're in the neighborhoods and the hoods, but but uh no, we share the culture, like there was no not a big difference being black.
SPEAKER_03:Well, you know what? Um, you so how many instruments do you actually play? You play you're talking about percussion, and I saw you brought something that's not percussion, yeah. But how many instruments do you play?
SPEAKER_00:Well, uh the the call bateria, but it is the drum session of the the the summer school, like the the 400 drummers there, and they are separated in groups. So, like there, there's like 10 to 12 drums, but uh the little little little chambour, like this, they're like 80 of them. So, like when they play together, it's called tambourine, they play together really loud and make solos on that. There's like lines designed for those, and every year is different, every song at school is different. So, like uh it's a big process of creation there, and then they call the biggest party on earth, like for a reason, because it is the biggest part, the biggest party on earth. Like it's kind of way to put footage on that, like later, like, but uh that's what it is. So there's those 12 instruments. I play those 12 instruments and I teach because for a while, like I was going to Europe, like in teaching groups in Europe as well, doing workshops over here, like even in Brazil, like I did some workshops in Brazil. So those instruments from the bateria from the percussion session called Batucada, I I I know well all of them because I teach them. And there's always a lead instrument called hypniq. I know there's a lot of foreign words over here. That's the lead instrument on that. So like you you you lead all the other instruments because it's very high peat, you hit you hit with one uh drumstick in your right hand and the the left hand is left, that instrument. I can send you pictures later or something. So so that one over there, like I'm I'm good on that one over there because you you need to be good on that, because like you're gonna lead a lot of people when you're doing that. No, so from that, like there's some strings, instrument that I play called biringball. It's an is an African guitar that's a one single string with a gourd attached on that. But if you one string, one string, but if you slide the the the string, like you have notes over there. Oh you can play like little scalping bow, and there is a martial art associated with that instrument called Capoeira. Sorry about all the foreign names over here, like in terms, but but it's what it's I'm intrigued.
SPEAKER_03:I've never seen that instrument.
SPEAKER_00:The one that I played, that we play like uh when I was 30 years old, and then I started and I started Chicago Summit School back in Chicago. I said, I'm gonna be a musician. But I was 30 years old when I decided to be a musician. So three? 30.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, 30. Okay.
SPEAKER_00:30 years old. I was 30 years old when I like I'm gonna be a musician.
SPEAKER_03:So like started at 69, so you're good. 30 is good.
SPEAKER_00:So like I I went to Brazil and I took a lot of class, I took a lot of classes like this, like this. No, and that's that's what I do today. This the this is the only melodic instrument. Uh it's funny, this this guitar is from Portugal. And uh, I was in Portugal a couple years ago. So I'm gonna find great players over there. Nobody plays this guitar in Portugal anymore. But in Brazil, like the whole country played this guitar. It's called cavaco or cavaquinho, which means a little piece of wood. Cavaco, a little piece of wood, and then uh the ukulele was made out of this guitar here.
SPEAKER_03:But as you can see, I was gonna say it looks like a ukulele.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, the body is pretty much the same, but uh no, the this like uh a fretboard, yeah. No, the guitar. Uh uh the strings are uh metal, uh iron, uh steel. Oh, still still still guitar, and the ukulele are nylon string. Gotcha, and the way of playing too, because this one can I play a little bit? Yes, and what's the name?
SPEAKER_03:Is there a name to the song?
SPEAKER_00:No, just just give you like a deal.
SPEAKER_03:I thought Kelly was gonna break out in some little bit of dancing because she hears songs that get her moving, she starts to dance.
SPEAKER_00:But you can you're playing melodic stuff too, like like that.
SPEAKER_03:So that's that is like intuitive. Very good. Mo Martini right there. Awesome. So I know it was it's like it was. I felt like I needed a uh a glass of wine or a peanut a lot or something like that.
SPEAKER_00:So that's what the group tried to blend a look, like a lot of instruments of this style that I'm playing with is called choro. It's uh it's a Portuguese, like uh funny story. Like this is this this is a weird story. Uh Napoleon Bonaparte, like in 18 or 7, invaded Portugal.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So the whole royalty fled to Brazil afraid of him. Everybody was afraid of Napoleon back then. So he went to Brazil and brought like everything with him, the whole royalty and the musicians, because they were having a lot of parties there, and the hip musicians that was playing their parties was the polka musicians. So those polka musicians went to Brazil, and there, like, there was there was no music before besides the drums, the African drums. So the African drums just like a fusion with uh with polka music and and and originated style of musical short of C-H-O-R-O.
SPEAKER_03:That is so interesting. Yeah, I know. Music, it tamed Napoleon's heart. He had to take it with him.
SPEAKER_07:So that is so yeah, like it really just calms the soul. Now, head baby music doesn't do it for me, but but music, especially the plain live of it, it just it's so soothing and relaxing to to be able to hear, you know, somebody play out.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I know, and you play very well. So you started when you were 30, yeah, and now you're doing you're doing all these different bands, you're flying back from Chicago, you're doing up here in the Midwest. Um we're just thrilled to have you here today. We have what we do, we do like a question of the day. And uh, Kelly, you want to ask him what that is?
SPEAKER_07:Well, we have a poll question, so yeah. Well, we have a question as well, but we didn't quite get deep into the subject as as we wanted to. Um, and asking the question do you do you have any children?
SPEAKER_00:I do. I have two and I have five grandkids.
SPEAKER_07:Well, you might be able to chime in a little bit, but we were we were kind of laughing because we were wondering, you know, when do you finally, when do your kids finally what we call get off the payroll? You know, we're we're constantly taking care of everything for them and they get quite used to it. And then they stay in college forever because the longer they stay in college, the more you might take care of them. So we're like, when do you know, should there be like a straightforward when you're 18, you're on your own, but that doesn't seem to happen. And then we have a great destination that we're going to be talking about um that's haunted. And so we're kind of wondering, you know, do people believe in ghosts? Do you believe in ghosts? And what is it like in Brazil? Do you feel in uh that there's spiritual forces are out there and around us?
SPEAKER_00:I think so, I think so. I don't know about the connection with about the kids and the ghosts, but it's you we had two conversations.
SPEAKER_03:So we're gonna go with the kids first. So let's go there. So do at what point do you finally cut off the kids?
SPEAKER_00:Well, early, like they were teenagers, like I was we always ask him to do some babysitter to like to uh mow grasses from from the neighbors, like because I might I went to school, I pay for my school when they went to school, and they said, like, listen, like I'm not gonna be working with the rest of my life to pay school for both of you. No, just have good grades, no, like you don't need to work, like you can go like out the wage, finish high school, like have good good scores, like, and then you you're probably gonna get like a uh scholarship, and my son did. Oh, that's my daughter didn't.
SPEAKER_03:So there's always that one, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But she always likes you to raise cars, no, like and then she don't know, she wants to have her car. You know, he was very like uh he's an engineer, and uh she's still going to school, like she's four years old, she's still going to school. But she started doing like accounting, and then and she didn't on and off, on and off, and start having kids, start having kids before like no having have a diploma in before getting a job and stuff like that. I'm like, and she knew better, but I know I could you you try to be supportive of that, no, but uh to me was my philosophy. Like, since like a young age, they knew they were not going to pay for the college.
SPEAKER_07:Does the family uh is anyone else involved in music?
SPEAKER_03:No, just yeah, I was just gonna ask that. No, you're good. That was good.
SPEAKER_07:We do um uh actually Logan chimed in and clapped and said how talented you are. So it looks like he's also a very big fan of yours.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, I love him too. Like we're together some some parties. He's really good friends with Habakka, which is the singer of the band.
SPEAKER_07:He did mention that that uh that she's amazing as well. You were talking about her.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so like uh you know, because this happens. If I if I had money, if I know to have a job that I normally have money, we would pay for the school, of course. No, but I didn't have now back in Chicago. I even though I came from from um from working the PBS, I was a producer on the PBS in Brazil. When I went to Chicago, I started working in the kitchen, like like uh doing everything in there, like making pizza, salad, dishwashing, everything. So from there, I thought my English was a little better, but it wasn't. So it took me a while until like I start working with my own legs, like uh when speaking English properly. And uh, even today, like I know that I have a very heavy accent, but understanding I require thank you.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, no, I mean go over to your country and start speaking your language. We admire anybody that is taking on the English language and speak more than one, so uh we can't say anything about your accent.
SPEAKER_03:Music is the universal language, right?
SPEAKER_00:Yes, that's yeah, music has this magic, you know, like it's like bringing people together. You all have like a romantic song that you relate to a person. There's so so much, and some music calms you down, like there's many factors, and all the whole industry is a big industry as well, no, like uh no, provide a lot of jobs, and uh and when if you look at the history of music, music exists for 30,000 years, 40,000 years. They're doing uh flutes with bones and stuff like that. But uh the music pretty much took out the last 300, three centuries, the three last centuries, because the church had the control of the music, you know. Then the music started getting more popular with Bach and some some other Luthero, Lutero, I think it was the one that would make the music a little more popular, more accessible to people. But it was a sacred thing, it was something only for the church before.
SPEAKER_03:So you're so well educated, it seems like in the music history. So, was that some of the courses that you took? Was music history?
SPEAKER_00:No, no, my thing was straight and advertised, like how to sell products, how to take advantage of people, stuff like that.
SPEAKER_03:So, have you used that? Have you used that in your music career?
SPEAKER_00:Your marketing, no, I don't, but it's good to sell the band. Like, I know how to sell and how to charge too. It's not only to sell, I have to sell and charge properly, you know, like two things. So it helps a lot. But though, like I never I never uh have a degree in advertising, but I never work with product. I think I said that before to you. Like I always work with ideas because I was working for the PBS. So like I feel like uh I know I feel good about that, you know, like not having to sell cigarettes for kids or something, you know.
SPEAKER_03:So you have a so give me an idea to sell our show.
SPEAKER_00:I saw I saw a promo like online beautiful on on YouTube. That was nice.
SPEAKER_07:Thank you. Yeah, it looks like um Logan also was off the payroll uh at 14. Wow, that's really 13. I wish I could uh have had that luck. It's an exciting moment.
SPEAKER_00:Let me go back then to a to a question about the spiritual. Yeah, Brazilians are very spiritual, and there's like you know, there's this whole thing, there was like uh Indians over there are living there for 13,000 years until the Portuguese arrived 500 years ago, no, and they brought the Africans there too, another spiritual like continent. So, like how the mix of those elements over there, like like make Brazilian people very spiritual. Because like I'm pretty much European, like my my grandparents were from Italy and Spain, but I was born there in Brazil, like but I like I said, like we're in the streets, like playing the drums. So like I got all those elements from them too. Like so I became this person, and then sometimes I'm living over here now, but I why did I why I was born like in Brazil, no, like in the middle of that. No, that's a big question. The world, how how come you're born here, though? You so many places in the world now, but that's that's a very spiritual. Yeah, I don't have an answer for that. Okay, but uh just to be remote.
SPEAKER_07:We all know we don't have those answers.
SPEAKER_00:No, no, I no, I don't I don't know if I believe in ghosts, no, like but I by spiritual like forces I do. I for like uh force of praying, you know, like we we combine like uh uh direct like energy, like thoughts and stuff like that. I believe a lot on that. And I believe like protection too, because you know, as your brain sleeps, your soul is still there, you know. Like you wake up in the morning, connect everything again, and your life go our life's gonna go all the way like that. No, so I I believe a lot. I though I don't I'm very I don't have a religion today, you know, like uh but I passed through a bunch of them, no, but somehow do I got disappointed or disinterested? But uh that's sort of I'm agnostic today, so that's uh okay.
SPEAKER_03:Well, let me ask you this question too. We'll get back not on the ghost, a little bit on the ghost thing, because what we're doing. Yes, let's do that then. Let's do that. We'll talk out there about the ghost. We have time for another question, and we have two minutes. So, what I wanted to ask you is um um in where you came from when you grew up, what we're doing is a road trip that's taking us to places that were haunted or have ghost places. So is there anything over there that has a story of hauntings?
SPEAKER_00:I don't know. We don't have Halloween, for example, right?
SPEAKER_03:But I'm talking like a place that maybe has this a story behind it that would kind of have something.
SPEAKER_00:Well, it happened to me when I was an adult, like uh in Bahia, state of Bahia, is the northeast of Brazil, it's uh a straight line from Africa. So the Portuguese like uh ships on crews, like in and went straight to Bahia, Brazil. There, like a there was two eyes, like I was like looking some sanctuary over there, and I saw this energy coming out from there. No, like uh, but it was uh the the African religion, like what's called the Yemanja, one of them. But uh there are gods from Africa. So there was a little sanctuary from over there, and I was looking at night. There were some candles in this beautiful energy, energy came from there. And then I said, like, wow, I don't I don't even know how to take it. No, but uh, but but it was good. It was something like this fill my soul, like uh, and I really enjoyed that. That's the one time that I remember something like, but another thing too that I remember, like that having like a good, a good like saint or a protector, like some something, some to you, like uh you know, sometimes something really bad can happen to you, but like uh this thing pulls your body a little bit so the things pass by in which some other people happen to get the person in full. So and you see that happened all the time, no, like uh so I I remember a bunch of times that happened to me. So, like I feel like uh uh angel, uh guardian angel, guardian angel, yeah. So that's I believe a lot on that. Now that happens to me many times, no, being situations that was very uh uh dangerous, and somehow I got pulled off like that, like safe, like with no problem.
SPEAKER_03:So, like uh well, Mo Marquis, we appreciate you being here. You've given us some spiritual feelings today with your music and how you've enlightened us. Yeah, so you can take us to break. So play us a little music out as we go to break.
SPEAKER_07:Um will uh take us uh out as soon as he's ready to go ahead and let go to go to that top of the hour.
SPEAKER_00:This is a song of mine.
SPEAKER_01:What if I see you for the first time? I'm gonna open my eye and say, Would you like to come with me? What if since you like me to agree and say besides your arms I want something else a piece of your mind? What if I say it's all right for now? You look so sensational, for the mind is that some delay have a keys anyway. But let's start it today.
SPEAKER_00:Aren't you glad it's Tuesday?
SPEAKER_07:That was fabulous. Thank you so much. We appreciate you being here today on the city show as our first soul strings guest.
SPEAKER_00:Thanks so much. I appreciate being here. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, don't forget to log on like www.sumababone.com.
SPEAKER_07:Yes, the history museum tomorrow, great.
SPEAKER_00:Tomorrow, tomorrow noon. Yes.
SPEAKER_07:Awesome. All right. Well, you are Gordon, your uh first Soul Strings series. First Soul Strings, yes. Awesome. All right, we're gonna take it to a break. Thank you so much.com or 590, of course, AM right here at the loot information station with the In Your City show.
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SPEAKER_04:Well, thank you, Kelly and Gordon, for having me on. This is such a treat. I've been looking forward to this, waiting for the book to get done. And of course, as you know, it was a six-year project. So it's been that long since I've seen you.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, absolutely. Can you show the cover of the book or does um do that for just so we can see it? It's such a beautiful cover. You know, what a you know, that's really something to try to figure out. How do you make a beautiful cover on a book that's a memoir of something that was so devastating in your life, right? I mean, you're now a blooming flower, that's for sure. And every time I see you, um, and the last time I saw you was at the event become um that we, you know, all enjoy it's gosh, hundreds of women that come together to learn, motivate, and inspire one another. And that's where I saw you. And every time I see you, there is literally never a moment that you aren't filled with the hug and joy um and and being alive. And you know, you could be bitter and angry and you're not.
SPEAKER_04:No, no, you know, Kelly, I always said there's two things you can do with any anger. You can either get better or you can get better. And I choose better over bitter because that is so such a positive energy. You can use anger as a motivator, you can use it to reach your goals, you can use it for so many um positive aspects versus negative. So why not choose better? You're so right.
SPEAKER_07:So, Judy, could you share with us, you know, the circumstances that let us know what led to the conviction? And of course, uh being in there and maintaining your innocence through that all you think you'd be, you know, get broken through all of this. Can you share a little bit with us?
SPEAKER_04:Uh, yes, what led to my conviction was being set up by someone that I totally trusted that was my boyfriend at the time. He had been in the ministry, he was a real estate broker, he was very intelligent, very suave and debonair, very, you know, easy to talk to. Uh, I would be able to open up to him. He had asked me questions uh, you know, about my past and uh as a battered woman for 12 years. And so I I felt comfortable opening up to him and telling him my vulnerabilities. And um, you know, I didn't ask a lot of questions then because I had yet had any therapy for my abuse all those years and being such sexually molested as a child. So I wasn't one to ask questions. I was rather passive in a relationship, but I'm on fire in business. And so I it was just like just the opposite. I could do so good as an entrepreneur, but I could not um I felt like I had no power in a relationship. Yeah, and I learned to find out that um so many people are addicted to different things, and my addiction was love. You know, I had no other addictions but but love, and that's all kind of love. And but what led to my conviction after I was um uh set up to take the fall for this murder, we had uh one attorney represent both of us. We were um it was a serious conflict of uh constitutional issue because he could not adequately represent one without letting the other take the fall. Uh so you could not testify to the truth because it would hurt the other client. So therefore, I could not testify to the truth or anything that transpired during that whole incident. And I was convicted. In the meantime, he was seeing two other criminal attorneys on the side that I was unaware of, and he hired them as soon as I was convicted. He fired that attorney that represented both of us and hired the other two that he had been seeing.
SPEAKER_03:Now, Judy, that law has changed, right? Where you can't hire the same attorney can't represent two people, correct?
SPEAKER_04:Correct, absolutely correct. And thank God, even though my sentence wasn't overturned, because the federal court said it would cost the state too much money, uh, so they could not correct a wrong and the could because it would make it retroactive, and other cases would come up after mine, after they ruled on mine, and cost the state too much money, so they couldn't do anything.
SPEAKER_06:Sure.
SPEAKER_03:Sure. Um what?
SPEAKER_07:Go ahead.
SPEAKER_03:Oh no. Um, so I don't know if you mentioned this yet, but uh so now you did you became a paralegal?
SPEAKER_04:Absolutely, yes. I became a paralegal, graduated with honors because I had to understand the law that got me there. And I had to understand, I had to have deep therapy to understand why I did not see the red flags of what was occurring right before me. Um, but I had only known the gentleman from April to July, and that's when the murder occurred. So it was a very short span that I even knew him. Um a lot of people just speculate that he just sought me out and was able to use uh my knowledge and my connections to do what he needed to do. Um, so I I hate to think that, I hate to admit to that, of course, but hindsight. Um I should have seen a lot of red flags, but I did not.
SPEAKER_07:Sure, many, many of us miss red flags in so many instances. I mean, who who thinks of something of that scale or magnitude, you know, that can change your life forever by not noticing you know those red flags? So correct 36 years, that's a long time, Judy. What were some of the challenges that you faced?
SPEAKER_04:Well, whenever I went to prison, he put a contract out on me immediately. Um, so that was the first thing while you were in prison, while I was in prison, because he feared me testifying against him in his trial, which he was acquitted of the murder. Wow.
SPEAKER_07:And then having children and then having to see them. And I know some of the photos we just, of course, you know what some of those that are watching uh may not know that we did a beautiful um feature as well on you, uh, and our women's uh issue. And so that allowed me to be able to see a lot of photos and really kind of see you in that element of that time, you know, with your kids uh coming to see you, your family. I mean, that the amount of stress that it must have put on your kids. Um, and then you know, you had uh Animal and Puppy Lump Day, I guess, you know, to help, you know, you're in this place. We can't even imagine here you are so lovely, you know, out as an author now of a book and a movie upcoming. But you know, that had to be such a challenge getting used to watching them grow up.
SPEAKER_04:Absolutely. It absolutely was. It was probably the besides leaving a loving family, me being the oldest of eight siblings. Um, my children were just literally torn out of my arms, and I did not, um, it was devastating to not be with them. I was just a middle class mother of two children. I had my daughter in dance classes and acrobats, everything you could imagine. And I worked from the time I was 16. I worked for the court administrator at the time of Jackson County, and I never, ever, ever expected something like this to happen. I believed in our system.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, yeah, we we do till it fails us, and unfortunately, it fails so many times for so many uh.
SPEAKER_03:So we showed the book a minute ago. What inspired you to write this book?
SPEAKER_04:Well, after telling different, well, during my years of incarceration, I had never really I've never talked to media about it or about the case or anything. And so uh after I got out, I started telling people, you know, my situation, and um they started asking questions and you know they said it just affected people um uh in such a positive way um to give them courage to deal with what they were going through. And they urged me and begged me to please write a book. They said this, my situation would help so many people, male and female. And it's even helped teenagers that have talked to me about themselves reading it, and so that encouraged me to write it. And um, I um I wanted to be very real, I wanted it to have the feelings that I had during that time. So I was very picky, so was my writer out of New York, and he was um very uh he and I were very methodical about making sure the readers actually felt what was going on at the time in the book through the pages.
SPEAKER_07:Well, you're very involved as you're saying. So do you have a certain, and maybe you can't say yet, but when you started the book and you could see this come into action, was there someone that you could see playing your role and have they picked that person?
SPEAKER_04:Well, there's uh we're still in the process of talking to producers, so we're not sure yet which you know how we're going to go or whom with, but um different producers and directors have mentioned um Shirley Stheron, they've mentioned uh Jennifer Lawrence.
SPEAKER_07:And uh yeah, two maybe because we'll have to have one when you're younger and then sort of where they do with movies, have two different, you know, people.
SPEAKER_04:Yes, and they mentioned Rachel McAdams also from the notebook. So I don't know.
SPEAKER_07:She's one of my favorites as well. How I mean, it's terrible, absolutely awful what you had to go through. I mean, I nobody not any of us, I don't care, could ever even imagine what you went through, what that's like, how terrifying, how just excruciatingly painful something like that can be. But then now here you are, and there's gonna be, you know, somebody portraying your life and watching that, you know, go into action. I would imagine you'll be on set during that as well, right?
SPEAKER_04:Yes, I can't wait. I can't wait to uh see this in living color.
SPEAKER_03:Yes. Let me ask you this, because this is interesting to me. Since your books come out, um, and I guess these books could could be in prisons as well. Have you had other inmates reach out to you?
SPEAKER_04:I have go ahead. I'm sorry, Gordon.
SPEAKER_03:No, since you've since you've written this book and and since they know your story, have you had other inmates reach out to you?
SPEAKER_04:Uh there have inmates, uh, inmates have reached out. Um, however, we haven't got it in paperback yet, and that's something the publisher would have to do because hardbacks aren't allowed in prisons. So we're still trying to figure out that process and how to. I would like to just donate pris uh, you know, the books to the prison for the offenders and have it in the library because there's so much in there to teach offenders how to be moms behind bars, how to create programs to help other people, how to become an advocate for each other, and how to uh help others because that's our purpose, why we were created to begin with. And I was given the gift and blessed to be able to find that purpose.
SPEAKER_07:Wow. Um, and I guess you kind of mentioned that a little bit when you said why you would love to have your your book and be able to donate those, because I'm I'm sure that the conversations and the things that go on inside, um, they're facing their own challenges. As many of us out here, and there's there's many women um that are in relationships that shouldn't be, maybe can't get out of them, or uh, there's many shelters that are out there where women are seeking help. Is there some advice, some words of encouragement? Uh, based on probably much larger than most out there from what happened to you. Is there any words of encouragement that you would want to share from your experience for those other women? Yes, starters.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I yes, there is a lot of advice in the book of ways to do it. Uh, one thing that I started doing in order to build my faith and know that God was with me and uh this was going to come to fruition is I made a vision board. And I had to see my faith in action on that board. And I saw it all the time. I made it out of two legal pads, that cardboard pieces, and it was very elementary, you know, looking and not the not the prettiest thing in the world because I had to cut little pieces out of newspapers and magazines that we had that were thrown away in the library. But um I would post things I wanted to happen. I wanted a commutation, I wanted time served, I wanted a pardon, which something is that is really hard for a lifer to ever get. I think I'm probably the maybe the first one in um Missouri that's ever gotten one. I'm not sure. I believe possibly I am, especially one that was commuted that day and immediate release by a governor in the first term, his first year. So all of that actually made history in Missouri. Um, but there's so much good advice in there, and I would like to tell people you may not have the faith at the time to go through what you need to go through to get out of the situation, but put it in living color in front of you and let your faith build and let your dreams build around that vision board. And you will have the put courage on there, put faith on there, put hope on there, put freedom on there. Because everything I put on that board has come to fruition except for my jet and a sports car.
SPEAKER_07:Just keep them on there moving in that direction. So I think that the movie, when is it projected that the movie? So let me ask this first. First, how can they get your book? And that's available now. Um, and then when are you projected to be able to that the movie is going to launch?
SPEAKER_04:Well, we have uh well, where they can get the book is at all major bookstores and on Amazon. Um they can go to www.judyannehenderson.com at my website. And as far as the movie, we are still working on getting producers that are interested in doing it. So um, you know, that's that's a hard project. That's uh, you know, you've really got to work on that one. I thought six years was long. I hope this one isn't gonna take that long, but um I'm not gonna give up. I'm making a new vision board, as a matter of fact. Because movie is on there, and the book was on there, and a movie's on there. So I know that has not come, you know, that hasn't come true yet, but it will.
SPEAKER_07:It truly does happen. I have many vision boards, found a couple behind the behind the bed, and they can't believe uh how many things we actually found it when we were looking for stuff downstairs, and it is crazy how many things, you know.
SPEAKER_03:Um she had she had a gray washer and dryer. And when when me and Kelly, we mean me and Kelly got together and I started we lived together. Guess what? I brought over, Judy. A set of gray washer and dryers. It was on her vision board before she ever met me.
SPEAKER_07:And that's there's so many things on there, just looking at it. It's just it's absolutely hilarious, you know, looking at so many things come true. We I'm so appreciative that we met you. Um, so glad the first time, and just watching you literally bloom from the first time that we became friends having you on our radio show a while back, and then knowing now, wow, a book is developed. You deserve every everything that's happening to you to be able to enjoy your life. I'm so glad that you're I love seeing the pictures of you with your daughters that are grown up now. And um, I guess you have grandbaby now. I have nine grandbabies. Nine grandkids, nine grandpapers. Oh my gosh. Yeah, well, keep enjoying life. Um, I can't wait to get my hands on one of your books as well, so that I can read it from front to back rather than just parts of it that we've we've been getting. But we're very thankful that you are free enjoying life. And I hope that you keep waking up every day with the smile that you have on your face. But before you go, I mean, we have to ask all of our guests our poll question, right? Yes. Do you believe in ghosts? Oh, you believe in ghosts, Judy.
SPEAKER_04:Okay. Do I believe in ghosts? That's our poll question for the day. Oh, do I believe in ghosts? I believe in spirits. Yes, that's well, I guess I could maybe I should have worded it correctly.
SPEAKER_07:Whatever, I don't ooh, we don't have that flying around. I guess it won't make it.
SPEAKER_04:But I believe in spirits, I believe that my mother comes to me in different ways. And she come to me as it's in the book through a piece of chicken. So you'll have to find that part after she passed away.
SPEAKER_07:All right. I can't wait to see that. Can you show the book one more time before we leave? I'm sending you a hug uh through the airwaves here, Judy. And thank you for being and sharing your story with us. I mean, it's a it's a big thing to be able to talk about your story and you talk about it with a smile, even though. So the strength you have is incredible.
SPEAKER_03:That's faith, though. That's your faith, right? This is a whole different outlook on when you have faith in your life.
SPEAKER_04:Yes, absolutely. You are so right, Gordon. Whenever you let God guide you and and you don't miss his signs, then you're doing good.
SPEAKER_07:Well, Judy, Judy Henderson, she uh her memoir is out when the light finds us. Of course, this is a woman who spent 36 years um incarcerated for uh murder she did not commit, that she is innocent. She's free today. She's sharing her story to help others, and we appreciate you taking some time with us on the in our new room. In the in your say you are our first virtual guest. So we have the Tavin first for every day of our show. So and even we had no glitches during it.
SPEAKER_03:So happy because thanks to Grant, our board operator.
SPEAKER_07:Grant, our amazing board operator, because you know it is everything's new, and we're trying to get we're trying to even get comfortable in our new room. So everything, you know, as you know, we have a new life starting here. But yes, you know, thanks for spending some time with us.
SPEAKER_04:We've got to do a picture on your someplace. You've got to have a wall where all your guests are on. We've got to do this right now.
SPEAKER_07:Hang on, Grant. Don't take her off yet. I'm gonna I'm shooting a picture at our TV right now. Lord, get one of your camera because the lights are all in my way. I got it.
SPEAKER_03:I got it. I got it.
SPEAKER_07:So we've we've got a picture that we can share.
SPEAKER_04:There we go. I love you too. Thank you so much for having us. It's always such a joy to see you and talk with you and to talk with Gordon. I don't get to see him as much as I do you, but um, it was good to see you again. It's great to see you.
SPEAKER_07:Thank you for staying so positive through it all and sharing your time with us. So, Judy, Judy Henderson, thank you so much. Thank you. We'll be back more right here on the In Your City show. Um, we are going to have our first restaurant as a guest here. So we're gonna be talking with Bethany. I, of course, it's B-U-D-E-D-D-E. So Bud or Budet, uh, we'll find out, Bethany. She is the owners of Squires restaurant. She'll be in. We're gonna talk about when we come back as well, before we meet with Bethany.
SPEAKER_03:And AJ, I think AJ's with her.
SPEAKER_07:Uh no, AJ's not here. Oh, is that coming? Okay, we're gonna talk about our destination, our road trip that we've got trip. Road tripping. So we're gonna tell you about a great place. And of course, if you like places that are haunted, like Gordon does, he actually tries to go find them when we find out that we're in a place like that. We don't want to bring them home with us. We're gonna talk about that road tripping, and then we'll be back with our last guest for the day, talk about squires, and maybe she brought something delicious with us.
SPEAKER_03:I hope so.
SPEAKER_07:I'm starving. I'm starving too. Happy hour. We don't get appetizers in here. So actually, yesterday we had champagne and open that up, but um, there's just water in here right now. I think we need a cocktail.
SPEAKER_03:Yes. All right, well, we'll be right back. You're listening to the in your city show. We'll be right back. I'm Gordon Montgomery, along with my beautiful wife, my co-host. Yes, in your city show right here at 590. I keep I gotta be careful when I say 590 because you know where I want to go with it from from the old days.
SPEAKER_07:590 a.m.
SPEAKER_03:It's the new K L I S K L I S, yes. But you know what? Me and Kelly, we get to do a lot of things uh with the magazines that we have and the radio shows and the podcasts. We get to do a lot of things. One of the things that we really enjoyed doing was taking piano lessons and taking them at Lace Field Music in Chesterfield. Lace Field Music, Dwayne is one of the owners there, and he's also the keyboard player for or the organist at uh Bush Stadium for the Cardinals, which he's invited me to come up and hang out with them in the what do they call it, the roost up there. And that would be so much fun. I would love to do that sometime. But what I'm going with this is we took piano lessons, and Kelly, Kelly learned how to play the piano in like a week. In one week, she was already playing the piano. The system that they have in place for getting piano lessons, it's so unique and it's so easy to do. Um, we learned how to play the piano. I kind of knew I always learned by ear, and it was a little difficult for me because it was like you had to read music, and I've never read music, so but I always wanted to read music because I wanted to be able to just pull some sheet music out and play something, right? Instead of trying to do it the old school way, like I've always done it. But what's really cool about it is they have a huge selection of grand pianos, uprights, uh baby grands. Um, they also have the disc, I always say it wrong, disc clavir. The disc clavir is a keyboard piano that is electronic, but you can hook up an iPad to that, and you actually can record to the iPad from the disclaver, but it will also give you all these songs that will teach you how to play them, but give you backup accompaniment with that as well. So you got like a whole band playing with you when you learn how to play it. I'm another great thing about that is it will play itself so you can entertain your guests and all the at a party and have the piano playing in the background, which I think is really kind of cool. If you buy a piano, you will get you will get piano lessons for life.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Piano lessons for life. So make sure you go to Lacefield Music and go down there, see Dwayne, and have him hook you up with a piano and and lessons. For life? He's 3090, and the 99-year-old guy goes in and Dwayne's like, I'm giving you piano lessons for life, buddy. That's a great deal.
SPEAKER_07:Oh well, I gotta mention. So my yesterday we talked about style. Yes. Monday styling. And we talked about that the boho, the California um, I guess, cowgirl look is N. And it doesn't mean like what do you have on today? Yeah, when I grew up, it was like jeans, belt buckle, or whatever. So I I wore my yesterday. My my my white boots you sure wore yesterday, yeah. And my it's like a white, roughly dressed, jean jacket, a little turquoise, and uh I didn't wear a straw hat, but you know, you can kind of play it up any way you want, but that's kind of the new thing. And then, of course, the guy, sure. We talked about that, but I forgot to mention why I was dressed looking like I'm I don't know, going to a picnic country concert or something like that.
SPEAKER_03:I love that look though.
SPEAKER_07:I'm definitely comfortable, let's put it that way. Should have that yesterday since we had to go to Kylan's baseball game right after the show.
SPEAKER_03:And this is what we call what my uniform, pretty much. It's like my daily uniform.
SPEAKER_07:Psycho bunny. And psycho bunny. Yeah, so cool, Jack.
SPEAKER_03:So it's not Easter, it's actually psycho bunny.
SPEAKER_07:Psycho bunny. So today's Tuesday, of course, and it's uh road trip and Tuesday, and we got a great destination. And in the studio with us as well, we just want to say hello. We're sitting over there. We don't want to make sure everybody knows that Bethany Buddy, now I've got the correct pronunciation, Squires, which is an incredible restaurant, is with us and basket with her.
SPEAKER_03:Big basket for two.
SPEAKER_07:So we are gonna find out what's inside the basket that we could probably use to go on our road trip destination, right? I would think so. Yes, absolutely. So um kind of cool, you know. Sometimes we don't want to get on that airplane, right? We don't want to have to make all those trips. We just want to go and or I should say airplane stopover layovers in airports. Maybe we just want to go somewhere for the day. So a great place to go is Eureka Springs, Arkansas. And you probably come back with a we come back with a little bit of a twang when you go there.
SPEAKER_03:Isn't it funny how your accent changes when you like hang out for a while?
SPEAKER_07:But just a road trip. It it does. It's it just starts to happen.
SPEAKER_03:She starts like everybody else in the family.
SPEAKER_07:Do you have some photos that you can show?
SPEAKER_03:Uh no.
SPEAKER_07:Oh, so you didn't do your job, I think.
SPEAKER_03:I didn't have any road trip photos. Anybody didn't send me. It's the wrong file.
SPEAKER_07:Wow. Wow, it's right. That's what happened. That's all right.
SPEAKER_03:This is where you people on the radio are going, yeah, see, yeah.
SPEAKER_07:This is a business park that failed incredibly large right now because he should be showing about six photos that I sent to him of our destination.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I will see if I can find them.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah. So you can take the scenic route, it's through the Ozarks. Um, roll down the winding, you know, roads and that, and uh, you could play one of your soundtracks, either haunted songs or fun songs, whatever. Uh float your boat. But 1886, that's a long time ago. So I had a picture of this hotel, the Crescent Hotel in Spa, which actually looks spooky. Yeah, Julie shed nodding her head, it does. It looks spooky. It's known as America's Most Haunted Hotel with sweeping mountain views inside of horse with historic charm, and they call the killer spa. So pretty cool place um to be able to go to. And they've got things, the treehouse cottages. If you'd rather, you know, stay off premises and you feel like maybe you don't want to, you know, meet a ghost, I guess, or a spiritual force. Um, then there's of course things to do there. Um, the which I also sent pictures when you drive through Eureka Springs. What a cute, quaint town, very historical to be able to go through the Grotto Woodfired Grill, the uh Keel's Creek Winery, the Eureka Spring Coffee House, the local flavor cafe. And of course, you loving food and being part of that. I I would imagine you love when. You go somewhere and be able to check out a new place. You could probably criticize it's something terrible, right? And sometimes goes to a concert, then he is absolutely 100% critiquing the lighting, the sound, everything.
SPEAKER_06:It's horrible to go to music venue with him because he won't just listen to it like I will.
SPEAKER_07:He's finding everything either great or really wrong about it. Eureka's burst is perfect.
SPEAKER_05:There's so many places to pick and choose and critique. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:You've been there then. I have not, so now I'm really excited. And that's why it's open. It's not even something I haven't been to. You do not have to go far to get there, which is awesome. Be able to enjoy it. So you can, of course, uh, they have the historic downtown that I was talking about that Gordon is not able to show because he has a lot.
SPEAKER_03:I will in just a minute.
SPEAKER_07:Natural Springs, did you try that at all? We did not, but that would be something I would like to do the next time. Yeah, how much fun would that be? You know, just natural warm water that's supposed to invigorate and heal the body. That's at the Basin Spring Park, um, the Blue Spring Heritage Center. Uh, the Thorn Crown Chapel. It's one of the most beautiful architectural hidden gems, and we'll be talking about that tomorrow with a lot of secret uh secret secrets. There we go. City secrets. See, see how we just found out I did send it to you.
SPEAKER_03:Apparently she did.
SPEAKER_07:City secrets that are in plain sight, but we don't know that they're there. And we were talking about that the other day, too, is is um being a tourist in your own city or you know, close by, how much fun that is. And then, of course, you could take the ghost tour to um inside um the Crescent Hills hotel and spa. So there's a road trip in for you, something close that you can do, Eureka Springs, um, and uh just go take the road to Ozarks or whatever. So let's take it to our guest who is here with us today, Bethany Buddy, and really talk about uh Squire's restaurant. And I always love talking about that. You do so, you know, uh lush, they call it a lushly renovated Victorian factory space. Yes, absolutely. You are in the Lafayette Square area, right? Yes, they call that the Western Wire Factory. Yes, um, because it's that that squires means it's paying homage to uh wires.
SPEAKER_05:Yep, the way that we spell it SQ is for Lafayette Square and Wires is because it was a wire factory.
SPEAKER_07:Very cool. Yeah, so tell us a little bit about that. And it it is one of the oldest neighborhoods, so it's got the whole um feel established in 1836.
SPEAKER_05:That's a lot you're right there when the hotel we were just talking about. Exactly. Is it haunted? So uh a lot of my employees think that it is, especially at night when they're there, you know, because compressors go off, and this is a big open air space, so you've got lots of uh uh sounds bouncing off of brick walls.
SPEAKER_07:So yeah, it could be haunted. So it could be, so no one's actually saw a little come by there, but they feel it sometimes.
SPEAKER_05:I think so. Absolutely, but it is, it's a great building, and and you know, it's Blaffit Square, of course, is the oldest historic neighborhood west of the Mississippi. Really? It is, yes. And um, and our park as well, 30 acres. Um, we have our house tour this weekend, which is amazing. Tell us what that is. Yeah, so um uh we haven't had it since uh pre-COVID. So this is an annual house tour that's been going on since the 70s. Oh uh so it's Saturday and Sunday, uh, the home and garden tour. So you can come and you can buy tickets and you can uh walk around and see numerous houses and beautiful gardens. And then it's fine by you where they can do something. Of course. Yep, yeah. We are right in the heart of things. We're in the business district and um, you know, proud to be a really big anchor there. Um, you know, but we are one of one of many wonderful establishments.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, sometimes I get a little out of sync because I'm doing all the technical stuff here.
SPEAKER_07:Well, tell us how would you describe the experience of going into squires? You know, what is somewhat the atmosphere, and we have to go.
SPEAKER_05:Sure, sure. So absolutely. So think about um a kind of an old Victorian um uh factory, so exposed brick, um, wood beams, um, 22 feet foot ceilings, um, just big open spaces, uh, repurposed, lots of repurposing. Exactly, like lots of recycled items that we use, lots of items from the original wire factory that we were able to reuse in the construction and the rehab that we did 24 years ago, probably 26 years ago and opened a couple years later. Um, but it's you know, we are very, we're very American, very Midwestern, um, super fresh produce. Uh, we use the same six or seven farmers that we've used for 24 years, you know, in the seasons that we can use them. And this is one of them right now, homegrown strawberries, you know, fresh chicken. I mean, there's just spinach and collard greens, all those wonderful items that we get and can put into our menu. Um, but it's it's a it's a very, I would say unique experience, but simple. And you know, perfect. Exactly. The space is great. And, you know, just looking around and seeing things and walk in the neighborhood. You know, you can just, you know, park there and kind of walk around and come in and have drinks or go to our market and have uh, you know, a coffee beverage or some grab and go. Um goes along with our road trip. It does. Yeah. How about wrap? Bring your bags and your picnic basket, and we will pack you up and you can go for your ride.
SPEAKER_03:All right. So you got this amazing menu. Give me some of the greatest items that you have. Some of the ones that are the crowd favorites, the ones creating all the bars.
SPEAKER_05:Crowd favorites. Um, okay, so not only are we, you know, kind of midwestern meat, uh, we are also vegetarian and vegan. So crowd favorites, uh 12-hour smoked brisket that we smoke on our patio um every week.
SPEAKER_03:So if somebody's doing that tour, they're gonna be smelling that brisket and coming right over. That's the thing that always gets me. It's like when I smell smell it. So we did the veggie, we did the vegetarian thing for a while, right? And we did it for like what, like year or two? Two years, two years, right? And then all of a sudden, one of our buddies had a had a barbecue, exactly what it is, and it was like, oh, that smells so good. It was the smell that lured us back.
SPEAKER_05:Next thing you know, we're carnivores again. Well, we haven't gone back. We we not only smoke our brisket and our chickens, turkeys, uh, vegetables, our salmon every week for our smoked salmon Benedicts and our smoked salmon display that we do for brunch every Saturday and Sunday. Um, you know, salts and and you know, just different things throughout the year. So it's it's there's there's a lot of really great um ingredients for everybody.
SPEAKER_03:All right, let's get past the main menu. Okay, okay, let's get to the part where we know it's hopeful. I can't eat another bite, but yeah, I got room for dessert.
SPEAKER_05:Gotcha. Grandma Buddy's hot milk sponge cake right now with fresh homegrown strawberries and whipped cream. Say that again. Yep, I know. I gotta hear it again. Grandma Buddy's hot milk sponge cake. It's not a hot sponge cake. I've ever heard about it's made with hot milk. And it's my grandma buddy's recipe. Well, did you bring that with it today?
SPEAKER_03:What's wrong?
unknown:Well, my friends.
SPEAKER_03:You want to describe it to me and then not let me try it?
SPEAKER_07:Which of course we have lots of questions. She's got lots of questions. I wouldn't call Subway Sandwich a restaurant. I know. Let's put that on the shelf right now. I was in that era a long time ago. And there were, if they were, they were in California, which that sparked my idea. But the gluten-free and the vegetarian, I honestly, when someone came into the restaurant, that's how long ago it was, and said they were gluten-free, I wasn't quite sure what that meant. I'm not gonna lie. Try this and see what happens. Sure. And then it's just started evolving. Do you find that in your years how that has rolled into play because you have this smoked meat and all these things, but there are these people that can't eat it all. Absolutely. How has that been transitioning to really cater to everyone's food needs?
SPEAKER_05:You know, so not only do we have the restaurant, we also have uh a pretty extensive banquet and catering facility. And and because of those two, we have so many people that have those special requests, okay? And and yeah, we transitioned. Um, I I can't say that it's always easy, uh, but I can say that we do our best. Um we but but we also do have, I would say half of our menu is gluten-free. Wow. And that's a lot of it's labeled, and and we even talk about that we can make these menu items gluten-free. Um, we have vegetarian and we have vegan items as well. Uh, that some of those are even gluten-free.
SPEAKER_07:A lot of us didn't, I mean, we didn't know what it was. We didn't realize why we had a stomach ache all the time.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah, some of us don't, and as we get older, we know it may not have been earlier, but we don't process as well, you know, as we're aging that. So I just wanted to kind of you know, being a restaurant owner, how is it transferred?
SPEAKER_05:Now it's very easy. I mean, it's and it's and it's something that's very normal right now for us.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_07:Um, are you is there a way that you if you're in the community very involved, so we can find yourself giving back to the community?
SPEAKER_05:Absolutely. So, of course, you know, with what has just recently happened um this this past couple weeks, that that was a big um undergoing for us. I mean, right away we donated um uh proceeds from our brunch that weekend. And and our brunches are our those two days are our biggest days. So it was very it was a good impact for for the community. And also we are still um a drop off for uh items and and things that we take a couple days a week. But we also have a wonderful neighborhood. Um, and it is uh Lafayette Square, and it's a restoration committee, um, and it's a not-for-profit. So so the beautification and the safety and the extra things that a neighborhood would do have to be you know financed somehow. So we do a lot of donating in regards to um that organization, uh, dining out for life is next week. Oh my god. This is our 24th year of of donating. That's it. Um, and so it's like almost from day one. So that's really important to us as well, as well as the ALS Association. I can see Courtney's over like, what's the picnic basket?
SPEAKER_09:I want to know. He literally just keeps sticking at it, he's losing it.
SPEAKER_03:Well, our listeners that we're gonna direct back to YouTube so you could see what it is. Yes, we want to see inquiring minds want to go.
SPEAKER_05:It's picnic in there, right? Uh, we have concerts at the park um every other Saturday, starting this Saturday. Let's get on 69. Yeah, so all the way through September.
SPEAKER_03:You're not gonna show me, are you?
SPEAKER_05:Uh okay. Oh Lord have mercy. We made housemate cookies. Oh my gosh, they're beautiful. Aren't they a lovely? Oh we have here, we got it. We have the best. Can we show them all? Yes, show them.
SPEAKER_03:Look how big these things are.
SPEAKER_05:We have four, they're so heavy. We babes so heavy. About four times gain any weight. Yeah, of course. Okay, what you guys have. So many craft beverages in our market. You can just pick up a grab and go, yummy. That's a margaritas pineapple. So beautiful.
SPEAKER_07:It's happy hours, so beautiful. Uh local cheese. What's it say?
SPEAKER_03:It says uh it says on the rocks, premium cocktails, jalapeno pineapple margaritas. Yeah, I love jalapenos in my margarita. I think it's a good thing.
SPEAKER_05:The first time you're gonna take that home and you're gonna enjoy it on your road trip while you're not driving.
SPEAKER_07:Well, of course, right. I'm a passenger.
SPEAKER_05:Um, so we use local farms for our cheese.
SPEAKER_07:This is in your market. You have the restaurant, but you have the market to go shopping. Exactly.
SPEAKER_05:Okay, and then also a lot of the products. I mean, a lot of the products that are in the market come for our kitchen, and a lot of the products in the market we use in our kitchen. So yeah, so it's a really good combination. Yep. So we've got some lovely cheese.
SPEAKER_03:Cheeses. Um, we have smoke gouda, one of my favorites. How'd you know?
SPEAKER_05:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:One of your personal favorites.
SPEAKER_05:It's gonna go really great with your white wine and basil.
SPEAKER_07:Oh my gosh. Yeah. If our friends are watching right now, they're going, coming over.
SPEAKER_05:Uh, so not only in that market, we also have local artists. So we've got you know folks that make these beautiful towels.
SPEAKER_03:Oh fine.
SPEAKER_05:Candles.
SPEAKER_03:Um uh by Monica Casey.
SPEAKER_05:Yes, so she also plays music at Squires.
SPEAKER_07:Would you like a children's book in your in your market? Just happen to have one right there. Oh we have many books.
SPEAKER_05:We need to talk now.
SPEAKER_07:She's see it right there. I'm gonna send you home with one for sure so that you have it. I would love to be in there. Can we ask you a question before we have to, we're getting close. Um, is what has um been your proudest moment? You know, here you have Squire's restaurant, Lafayette Square. There's so many lovely things that are happening around you um that you're doing and about the community. But is there something that just really keeps you inspired to keep doing what you're doing at your proudest moment?
SPEAKER_05:I think being able to employ the number of staff that we can. I think that that's been really important. It was very challenging, you know, during COVID to you know, keep keep that staff and and to keep them confident that they're gonna have a job. Um, so that that was one really that that's been a a passion of mine is is making sure that we've got a staff that can make a living, can make a living, pay their bills. Um and we can want to do that business without them. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, that's just been, you know, I've said that I've had a lot of interviews, and people have asked me a lot of those kinds of things, and I think that was one really important one. The other one is um uh our daughter is our GM and she has worked for us. Um is it AJ who was gonna come with you? Okay. Yeah, she she had to work. Sorry you missed. Um, and we have watched her uh, you know, be a busser and uh be a hostess. Burn the ropes, and now she's our GM.
SPEAKER_07:Yeah, that's incredible.
SPEAKER_05:I'm real proud.
SPEAKER_07:Squires restaurant, Bethany Buddy, the owner of the restaurant, spending some time with us, bringing a picanicka basket with her. Thank you. And you do you have an event space, market, restaurant, everything that someone could enjoy. You have that there at Squires. So of course, if they just put Squires into the Google SQW. Pardon me?
SPEAKER_05:SQW.
SPEAKER_07:SQW. If they put that, make sure you have that right, you know, and and know it's Lafayette Square, the SQ, whereas they'll be able to find your restaurant. Thank you. Thank you. Someone else that I want to thank because it's the reason why that we get to be on every day is a business, St. Louis Closet Company, Jennifer Williams, who's become our friend. She's in all three of our magazines, Chesterfield, Clayton, and St. Charles County magazine. Um, she was on the cover of our magazine last September for the style issue. Um, she's gonna be giving us some tips coming up this September. She's gonna be on our show. Um, also talking organization. I mean, there's something about being organized and, you know, just like your restaurant, you've got to have it organized, you know, to be able to function and stay calm within your business because when it's a disarray, it is really hard to be able to do things. And having our closets done has been brilliant. People get their garages done, they get their offices, their kitchens. It's it's not a one-size-fits-all show. Jennifer and her team are fabulous. It's local, it's not a franchise, just like yourself. It is owned by a woman, run by a woman and her team, and she just does an incredible job. And we're so thankful to have her part of our show and look forward to her to be able to come in. She's got a strong heart for the community as well, gives back locally, does a big toy drive at Christmas, which is huge. And we're just really, we feel honored. As I'm sure, like you talk about your team, that personal journey with your team that you have, knowing people like Jennifer, you know, it it's and and knowing how she treats her staff and her team and how much they love working for her just shines on the kind of person she is and what she gives to the community. So, as she says, from chaos to calm, St. Louis Claws and Company is your go-to for creating functional, beautiful spaces in every corner of your home. Support small and support local, is what Jennifer says. And get organized in the St. Louis Way. So we've had an incredible show at six o'clock. Happy hour is ending, and we're gonna end it perfectly with Squires bringing us jalapeno pop, pineapple margarita, and some incredible cookies and some items from the store. Thank you so much, Bethany, for spending time with us. We can't wait to come in, take a road trip to Lafayette Square and spend some time with you. So, in your city show coming to you as the Lou Information Station, live on demand at Louinfo.com. You can subscribe to YouTube page there at the Louinfo. Watch the show live if you don't want to be on the dial at 590. And of course, anywhere in the world, you can listen to LouInfo.com. Check out all the great shows that are running throughout the day that they have going. We're 24-7. There's something streaming for you right here at the Lou Information Station. In your city show, we'll be back tomorrow. I'm Kelly Lamb, and that is Gordon Montgomery. I should have said my hot husband, right? Because he was so nice earlier, so beautiful. Until tomorrow, cheers.
